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Neofolk thread?


Why not?


Reminds me in weird way of Circassian music



Interesting, is it because of the combination of the bagpipe with the drums? I do find that sound rather attractive, so feel free to post some examples of said music, slavfriend.


They are even muslim as well so it fits


That's because they use some 'rabeca'-like instrument too. And then this man choir with monotonous and austere voice. Quite typical for all Circassian music, though today there's only one ensemble interpeting it since the culture's almost dead.

They're fresh converts, they know the Almighty something like just two centuries. Much less than thousand years of Muslim history in Portugal.


Interesting. I've met a circassian once(not muslim)and he told me about the situation of circassian culture but i had never listened to circassian folk music, i will look for it on youtube later.

I don't enjoy the music from South Portugal that much tbh, it just doesnt feel traditional enough. Or maybe i just dont have enough moorish blood to understand or something like that.


Also one more quite unexpected resemblance is to be found in this short fragment - starting from 1:10.

I don't know whether this manner of singing is common in Galicia but it sounds extremely Caucasian - timbre, scale and rhytm makes me feel like some Chechen or Georgian song was just translated into Galego. The only thing that doesn't match is the choice of instruments. Georgians would occasionaly use bagpipes too but just not as often as Portuguese use their gaitas.

It's like I've heard it before in my Caucasian musical "journeys" - these melodical figures, that creaky voice like that of an elder man - but cannot remember the exact tradition.


Actually I cannot think of any good Russian neofolk.

If we produce anything we'll just follow extremely traditional guidelines (in villages) or do it wrong. I call the latter Soviet ethnic music - just some mix of Tuvan and so called 'Slavic' traditions - totally not Russian at all. A good example of this rootless music is that of Sergey Starostin.


I see. I dont think it is very common, but i know it did exist for quite a while since some traditional brazilian songs also use the same style of singing.
It reminds me a little of arabic, so maybe it has something to do with muslims culture, considering that both Portugal and the Caucasus suffered influence from it? The only problem i see with this is that Galicia suffered a very brief occupation by the moors (720 - 729) so the cultural influence there isnt that big.

About the "traditional" music you posted, it sounds like a bad tatar music, not russian. Some soviet war songs like poljushko polje out of the top of my head, are very pleasant although they dont really fit in the folk or neofolk description. It really is a shame that the soviets destroyed much of the russian culture, but oh well, jews gonna jew.


>some traditional brazilian songs also use the same style of singing
Could you send some examples?

>It really is a shame that the soviets destroyed much of the russian culture, but oh well, jews gonna jew.

Yes, you understand the essence. Only way to hear some quality Russian music today is to dig ethnicities we influenced much. You have the excellent Myllärit that focuses on the Karelian tradition, for example. I believe it's just the way Russian neofolk would sound like if we had one.

But Russians themselves play some weird Soviet chimeras with Indic instruments, Ukrainian rhytms and Georgian voices - and all in neo-Pagan costumes with a Tartar hat. No exaggeration, just literally.


>Could you send some examples?
Ehh, not really. The music embedded has "some" resemblence of it, but i can't really remember any song which features that specific sound. You're going to have to take my word for it, really.

Now that's weird. I'm pretty sure i've heard a song that had the same rhythm as that one, but it was rather recent (i think). It was about a lady in a lake IIRC.

And yeah, i've heard about the russian "pseudo-nationalism" before, trying to claim that cultural traits inherited from other parts of the soviet union are part of the russian identity. It's just like some urbanites trying to claim that african music is part of the portuguese identity. Of course that has already happened succesfully in Brazil a century ago, but the methamorphosis of Brazil from a white country into the mess that it is nowadays is another topic. I'd highly recommend you avoiding it, unless you like geographical nationalism.



>O mandador do Alentejo

I saw the original movie from where they took the voice you hear at the beginning. It was from a group of farming laborers led by a foreman (the voice in it) that used to work in exchange of a certain fee for land owners.

They are most likely dead by now and their profession extinguished. The movie was taken in the 60's or so and they were already complaining about the "machines" lol.


Oh, I see, these days tried to hear some pieces recorded by Mário de Andrade's team and suprisingly I hear some Portuguese harmonies but rather them being similar to some styles from Açores.

Yes, I even didn't expected from a foreign national to understand the affair that precisely. But unlike you Brazilians who proclaimed being a completely new "geographical" nation from the very independence representatives of "Soviet culture" don't even realize that there's a real gap between RU and SU created by bloody 20th century and claim a kinship—erroneously. OK, let's let alone out complicated politics and enjoy the music.

Interesting. What was the name of this film?


Urze de lume sounds very comfy to me, although the songs are a little bit too simple.

>Oh, I see, these days tried to hear some pieces recorded by Mário de Andrade's team and suprisingly I hear some Portuguese harmonies but rather them being similar to some styles from Açores.
I'm not very knowledgeable about Mário de Andrade's work, but portuguese rhytms from the mid 19th century remained very popular in Brazil up to the 1920s, obscurely classified as "modinha", which was what most likely influenced Mário de Andrade, considering he never had a strong connection to Portugal, even opposing the portuguese cultural influence on Brazil as this passage shows: "Os portugueses dizem ir à cidade. Os brasileiros, na cidade. Eu sou brasileiro"
Apparently i'm not brazilian, since i use the correct articles. Oh well.


My embeds arent working anymore for some reason. Here's the link: https://youtu.be/PKuZRRI-mgw .


Otawa Yo's new clip btw just to neutralize the Pole.


Otava Yo is fucking great. I dunno how i didnt mention it earlier when the topic of russian culture was afloat. Probasbly because it isnt's exactly traditional.


>Probasbly because it isnt's exactly traditional.
It's very rooted in fact, Alexander Matochkin approves. Yeah, modern interpretation, electric guitars and stuff but what really interesting is that some very good material used: this "Sumetskaya" is in fact a part of obscure tradition of the Pskov oblast, I bet 99,99% of Russians are not even aware of it. You need to be a folklore overlord to find it, recover and make relevant. I can't even believe yet that it actually happens in my Soviet motherland.

Vid: khokhil mountains.



>quick reply don't have it
>it doesn't convert automatically



Lel. Literally Soviet university.


I don't understand, is there an album whose purpose is to rant deans in the University of Krakow?

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